The Fantastic 4 GL - Transcript

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John: Dial up with AOL.

David Lawrence: In the AOL.

John: And I haven*t had this problem ever until the last I want to say month or so.

David Lawrence: And is it with everybody at Hotmail?

John: No, not with everybody but with some people and I don*t know I mean there is no real pattern.

David Lawrence: So there maybe and here is the deal. You can use Hotmail over any web connection, right. Doesn*t matter whether you are in your home, your work, you are at internet caf* and if your internet service provider somehow has been put on a list that deals with spam a black hole list, a slow down list there could be things going back and forth between that ISP and a black hole list or AOL or hotmail that slows the mail down on purpose. There is a new thing and we kind of touched on this before the break called Greylisting. Now what Greylisting does and this is for people that have their own servers and have their own send mail or queue mail or other form of mail servers. You can install a piece of software that takes advantage of the fact that spammers never try twice. They send a boatload of mail out and if it gets to your grade if it doesn*t they are just going to send another boatload of different E-mail out they don*t really care. Now if you send a piece of E-mail from a legitimate account and it goes to the server and the inbound server says wait hold on, I am busy I can't take this right now try me back in a bit, it will, it will try back 5 seconds later. If it still says I am sorry I am busy I am not even here, I am restarting. I am too busy to take the mail, well then I will try again in 15 seconds and then 2 minutes then 5 minutes. It depends on how you have these all set. But the point is, it will keep trying for several days before it actually you know until it gets through or doesn*t get through at all. And you will get that you know mailer daemon response that says couldn*t send the mail right. Spam not even close once, if it doesn*t get through, it doesn*t know, it doesn*t care. It*s usually using stolen bandwidth anyway so who cares. So what Greylisting does is Greylisting says no to all inbound E-mail says comeback later and then it says no again after 5 seconds. So after 20 seconds, which is not an interminably long delay that oh, okay I know you, you comeback twice now come on in right.

John: Yeah.

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